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    /family·2024·Madrid·1y ago·@diegoco8

    British school vs concertado in Madrid, our 12 month review

    We just finished a full year with our two kids (ages 7 and 9) in Madrid schools, and the verdict is in regarding British vs. *colegio concertado*. We went with the British school and honestly it's been a mixed bag, definitely not the dream we envisioned when we moved here on the DNV last August. The academics are strong, no doubt. Our daughter’s reading improved dramatically and my son is tackling complex math. However, the cost, at nearly 1,200 euros per child per month plus another 300 euros for lunches and extracurriculars, really eats into our budget. The biggest surprise for us was the social integration. Despite it being a "British" school, most of the kids are Spanish, so they still mostly speak Spanish amongst themselves. Our kids have learned a ton of Spanish, but they aren't forming the deep English-speaking friendships we hoped for at the school itself. Our friends, also DNV holders, enrolled their two boys (similar ages) in a *colegio concertado*, Sagrado Corazón in Chamartín, and their experience seems smoother. They pay around 300 euros a month per child, which is a massive difference. Their kids are fully immersed in Spanish culture and language, which was their primary goal. While the teaching style is more traditional, they’re both thriving and have made local friends very quickly. They’ve even joined local football clubs with classmates. If we had to do it again, especially looking at our current financial strain, we might have seriously considered the *concertado* option. The trade-off between the perceived academic edge of the British school and the significantly higher cost, versus the more integrated and affordable *concertado*, is one we are weighing for next year. We came for the Spanish experience after all. Our agent, Global Pathways Spain, helped us with the initial DNV applications but school choices were entirely up to us. It really comes down to your family's priorities and budget.
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    @vibe_2597·1y ago

    the concertado path is such a gamble. we tried it for six months but the language barrier for a ten year old was too much. unless your kids are under five or already speak decent spanish, the british schools are basically the only way to keep them from falling behind in 2024.

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    @oliveeu·1y ago

    1,500 euros a month per child including the extras is wild for Madrid. You are basically paying a premium for a curriculum that they could get back in the UK for free. I think people get scared of the traditional 'rote learning' style in Spanish schools, but at ages 7 and 9, kids are like sponges. They'll adapt to the concertado way faster than we think as adults. The extracurriculars at local clubs are miles better for integration anyway.

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    @neon_gz6·1y ago

    Interesting that you are calling this a Madrid review when the tag says Las Palmas. Did you guys move recently or is that just a typo? I am trying to figure out the British school scene in Gran Canaria specifically since the fees seem a bit lower there than in the capital.

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    @flamenco_25·1y ago

    good catch, i think they tagged it wrong. the madrid fees for british schools are insane lately, easily 1k a month plus meals.

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    @ines__remote·1y ago

    We had a very similar experience in Barcelona with the British school costs. We pay about 1,300 per month and honestly, the 'English environment' is a bit of a myth once you step out of the classroom. The kids are going to speak the local language in the playground no matter what school you pick. If I were you, I'd make the jump to the concertado for the next term. That 2,000 euro a month difference is basically a mortgage or a lot of travel around Europe.

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    @siesta_uk·1y ago

    I agree on the playground thing. My kids go to an American school and even there it is 80 percent Spanish sounds during recess. It is just the reality of living here. If you want a bubble, you have to really look for the most expensive elite ones, but then you lose the whole point of moving to Spain.

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    @alcalaco·1y ago

    the 2024 prices are definitely up since last year. i think every school we looked at added at least 5 to 7 percent to the tuition. it is making the dnv lifestyle a lot more expensive than the blogs lead you to believe when you factor in a family of four.

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    @drift_z6·1y ago

    yeah the school inflation is real. plus the matriculation fees you never get back. it is a racket.

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    @wander2694·1y ago

    the fee difference is the biggest shocker. for the price of one kid in a top british school in madrid you can almost pay your entire rent in a nice neighborhood. we went the concertado route and used the savings for private intensive spanish tutors. it worked out better for us.

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    @olivepm·1y ago

    how did you find the tutor? we are struggling to find anyone who actually knows how to work with kids rather than just adults.

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    @pixeldev·1y ago

    did any of the parents mention the admissions process for middle of the year? we got our dnv in june but the schools were already packed. it feels like you have to apply before you even have your visa approved which is a huge risk with the current processing times.

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    @alcala_23·1y ago

    Global Pathways actually suggested we look at private Spanish schools instead of British ones to find a middle ground. We pay about 700 a month. It's more than a concertado but less than Northwood, and the facilities are amazing. You get the immersion but with a slightly more modern teaching approach. Might be worth looking into a 'colegio privado' as a third option before you decide for next year.

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    @byte__data63·1y ago

    Madrid is getting so expensive that the DNV income requirements barely cover a high end British school plus a three bedroom apartment in a decent area. We looked at the math and realized we'd be living better in London than Madrid if we kept paying those tuition rates. We are switching to a concertado in September specifically to claw back some of our disposable income so we can actually enjoy the Spanish lifestyle.

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    @ghostagx·1y ago

    this lines up with what we saw this year. the main issue with the british schools is the bubble. my kids have been here a year and still cant order a fanta in spanish because all their friends are expats. the playbook needs a section on social integration because the british schools are failing at it.

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    @carmenbcn·1y ago

    I appreciate the consolidated notes. We are looking at a concertado in Chamberi for next year. Did any of the families you talked to mention the religious aspect? Most concertados are Catholic and I am curious how much that actually impacts the daily curriculum for non-believers.

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    @gotic__·1y ago

    We actually went the opposite way and moved from a concertado to an international school in Aravaca. The traditional Spanish style was just too much for our son. He's a bit more creative and the constant memorization and heavy homework load in the concertado was making him miserable. Yes, it's way more expensive, but the mental health trade off was worth it for our specific situation. It really depends on the kid's personality.

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    @remote_uk19·1y ago

    The homework thing is real. Our neighbors' kids are in a concertado and they seem to have two hours of work every night even at age 8. It's a very different philosophy than the British system. Did you find the international school solved that or is it just different types of work?

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    @flamencovlc69·1y ago

    we found that the concertado schools have much better sports facilities usually. the british schools in the city center are often just converted buildings with tiny patios. if your kids need space to run it is something to keep in mind for the review.

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    @nomad__ops24·1y ago

    I think the social integration part you mentioned is the most important thing for DNV families. If you stay in the British school loop, you're always going to be the 'expat family' on the edge. Joining the local football club through a concertado is the fastest way to get invited to the Sunday paellas and actually feel like you live here. We made that mistake our first year and felt so isolated.

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    @alcala_2695·1y ago

    Are you worried about the religious aspect of the concertados at all? Most of them, like Sagrado Corazon, are Catholic. We're not religious so we went with a public school, which is free but definitely has its own challenges with resources. I've heard some concertados are very relaxed about the church stuff but others expect the kids to participate in everything. Does your friend mention any of that?

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    @phantom_2358·1y ago

    Most of my friends in concertados say it's mostly just a formality these days. A few prayers or a mass here and there but nothing extreme. Though I've heard some schools in Salamanca district are much more conservative than others. it's definitely something to check during the tour.

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    @diegotnf·1y ago

    I'm curious about how your friends managed to get into Sagrado Corazon. From what I've heard, those popular concertados in Chamartin have massive waiting lists and a point system that favors people already living in the neighborhood for years. Did they have to apply months in advance before their DNV was even approved? We looked at a few concertados last year but were told there were zero spots for mid-year arrivals.

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    @codefr59·1y ago

    thanks for sharing the consolidated notes. it is helpful to see the 12 month perspective. we are still on month three and the overhead for the british international schools is definitely hitting our budget harder than expected. glad to know we are not the only ones feeling it.

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