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    /taxes·2024·Barcelona·1y ago·@remoteuk8

    hacienda just sent me a paralela for 2023, sharing the letter details

    woke up to a notification from AEAT and my stomach dropped. they sent me an "auto de liquidación provisional" which most people call a paralela. basically they are disputing my expenses for the 2023 tax year. since i'm on the digital nomad visa i applied for the beckham law tax rate but it looks like they are flagging my deduction for home office costs and some hardware i bought in september. the letter says i owe an extra 1,800 euros plus interest because they claim my flat in eixample isn't a registered place of business. i work for a company in delaware and i thought it was clear i'm 100% remote. has anyone else dealt with this yet? my gestor said it's common for them to target beckham law folks in their first year to see if we cave. if you get this letter don't ignore it. you only have 10 working days to file an "alegación" or they just take the money from your bank account. i am going to fight it but the stress of dealing with spanish bureaucracy is really starting to wear me down. i've attached a redacted version of the first page so you guys can see the wording they use.
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    #hacienda
    #dnv spain
    #barcelona
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    @echo_fr36·1y ago

    man that sucks. hacienda is aggressive this year. did you actually get the official approval letter for beckham law before you filed? if not they will reject every single deduction by default.

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    @elenaeu·1y ago

    standard procedure for them. they send out thousands of these letters hoping people don't reply. if you have the invoices and they are properly formatted with your NIE you should be fine. just takes months to resolve.

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    @ines_de71·1y ago

    are you sure your beckham law was actually approved before you filed? sometimes there's a delay and if you file under the special regime while the application is still sitting in some office in barcelona it triggers an automatic alert. the fact that they are focusing on your flat in eixample suggests they think you're trying to double dip. definitely fight it if you have the approval letter dated before your filing.

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    @diegoibz·1y ago

    this is exactly why my gestor warned me not to try and deduct a single euro for a home office if i was on beckham law. the whole point of that tax regime is a flat rate for workers and they don't usually allow business expenses like a normal autonomo would. i know it sucks since your hardware was for work but hacienda treats us like employees of the delaware company, not freelancers with a storefront. check if your contract specifically mentions the home office requirement because that might be your only chance during the alegacion.

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    @driftes·1y ago

    i actually tried to deduct my fiber internet last year and got flagged too. they are super aggressive about it lately. unless you have a specific part of your rental contract that says a room is for business and you pay the iva on that portion of the rent, they won't budge. it's really annoying but usually true.

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    @martapm73·1y ago

    i live in gracia and had the same issue with my rent deduction. uge approved my visa no problem but hacienda is a different beast entirely. they don't seem to care what the immigration office says.

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    @matrix__design·1y ago

    weirdly enough i got the same thing for a laptop purchase. my gestor told me that under the special regime you actually can't deduct many expenses at all compared to a normal autonomo. check your model 149 status.

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    @driftes·1y ago

    man i live in eixample too and this makes me nervous for my filing next year. did you try to deduct the full rent or just a percentage? usually they only allow like 30 percent of the utility bills and even that is a struggle. if you tried to deduct a whole room as an office without a separate meter or door people say it's an automatic fail. good luck with the fight.

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    @nomad_agx83·1y ago

    is it true they can just take it from your account? i thought there was a formal appeals process that froze the payment. i am still waiting on my 2023 refund and now i am terrified.

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    @nacho__ops·1y ago

    no they will definitely pull the money if the deadline passes. spain doesn't mess around with tax debts. you have to pay first and then fight for the refund usually. contact a lawyer not just a basic gestor.

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    @ghost_ibz·1y ago

    i got one of these last month and i just paid it to be honest. the stress of the 10 day window is the worst part. by the time i found a lawyer who actually knew what to do, five days were already gone. it feels like a shake down but 1,800 is right on that edge where legal fees to fight it might cost more than the tax itself. hacienda knows exactly what they are doing with these amounts.

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    @ronin_mad·1y ago

    that is a terrible mindset. if we all just pay when they make mistakes they will never stop targeting us. get a better gestor who doesn't charge a fortune. mine only charged 150 to file the response. it took him twenty minutes.

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    @agent_bcn33·1y ago

    the problem is that for beckham law users the rules are way more rigid about business costs compared to a standard autonomo. if you pay it now you might still get hit with a late penalty later. make sure the letter says it's the final settlement.

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    @byte__data63·1y ago

    not to be that guy but beckham law is a special tax regime for a reason. it's already a massive discount compared to the normal progressive rates. i was told by two different firms in barcelona that you should never claim expenses when using it. it's meant to be a simple flat 24 percent. adding home office costs is just asking for a manual review of your entire life. i hope you get it sorted though.

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    @sofia_uk37·1y ago

    the law actually has some grey areas regarding remote workers on the dnv specifically. since the visa type is so new the tax collectors are still using old rules from when the law only applied to footballers and executives. it's a mess that needs a court ruling to fix.

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    @echo_bcn·1y ago

    sorry you're going through this. i had a Similar scare with my health insurance deductions last year. hacienda is basically a debt collection agency that happens to run the country. once you're on their radar they check everything. did you include the invoice for your september hardware in the link they sent? sometimes they just want to see a proper factura with your nie on it and they leave you alone.

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    @alvarodev·1y ago

    ten working days is nothing. does your gestor actually have experience with dnv cases or are they a generalist? i found that the general gestorias in bcn just guess when it comes to us companies and beckham law. you need someone who specifically handles foreigners. the interest and penalties can snowball if you don't submit the alegacion exactly how they want to see it.

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    @pep2363·1y ago

    the hardware you bought in september is probably the trigger. large purchases in the second half of the year always look like people trying to lower their tax bracket at the last minute to hacienda. since you're remote for a us firm they basically view you as a high earner living in a fancy neighborhood and they want their cut. don't let it wear you down though. the system is built to make you quit.

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