Tenant rights when landlord stalls the empadronamiento letter
Thanks for sharing this. We had a nightmare with our landlord in Ruzafa back in March. They kept saying the previous tenant was still registered so they couldnt add us. It turned into a huge back and forth where I had to threaten to report the contract to the tax office before they suddenly found the paperwork. Did you have to involve an agency or did you manage to resolve it directly with the owner?
I am in a similar spot. Did you actually need the physical letter signed or did you just take your digital contract to the city hall? Some offices are way more strict than others about the original signature.
did you go to the office in tabacalera or the one downtown? i heard the staff at tabacalera are way more relaxed about the documentation. if anyone else is reading this and struggling with a landlord, try booking your appointment at one of the smaller district offices instead of the main one. they sometimes overlook the extra permission letters if the contract looks professional enough.
i had the exact same experience in cabanyal. my landlord kept saying he was out of town. it turned out he hadn't updated the deed after his mother passed away so he wasn't technically the owner on record at the city hall yet. i had to wait two months. it almost messed up my whole DNV process because you only have a certain window to get the TIE done. glad you got yours sorted.
paying 950 for a two bedroom in ruzafa is actually a great deal right now. no wonder the landlord is being lazy. they probably have ten other people lined up to take it if you complain too much. it sucks but some of these owners think they are doing us a favor just by letting us live there. i had a similar issue with my TIE paperwork and had to basically show up at the landlord's office to get a signature.
the empadronamiento situation in valencia is getting ridiculous this year. i had a owner try to tell me it wasnt possible because it was a short term seasonal contract. total lie. people moving here on the dnv need to be careful because without that padron you cant even start the residency card process or get a health card. glad you got yours sorted finally.
actually you don't even need a letter from the landlord if you have a valid rental contract signed by both parties. i did my empadronamiento in valencia last month and just showed the contract plus the last utility bill. the funcionario at the ayuntamiento didn't ask for a specific letter of permission at all. i think people overcomplicate it by asking the landlord for extra documents that are not strictly required by law.
that works if you are the only one on the contract but sometimes they get picky if it's a room rental or a short term stay. i had a clerk tell me my contract wasn't enough because it didn't have the catastral reference listed on it. every officer at the office seems to have their own set of rules.
i'm about to move to valencia for my DNV in june and this scares me. i already paid a huge agency fee to avoid these kinds of headaches. did you use an agency or was this a private listing on idealista? i was told that agencies make sure the paperwork is ready but now i am starting to doubt that. ninety percent of the "service" they provide seems to disappear the moment they get their commission.
This really helps. We are moving to the El Carmen area next month and I have been worried about the doc list. Did you need to show proof of rent payment along with the contract? I heard some offices are asking for the bank transfer receipt from the first month now to prove the lease is actually active.
i'm curious if you are talking about the "hoja de empadronamiento" or just a letter saying you live there. usually you just download the form from the valencia ayuntamiento site and you sign it. the only reason the landlord needs to sign is if they are already registered at that address. are they trying to avoid taxes? that is usually why they stall. they don't want the government knowing the place is rented out.
bingo. if they are still registered there they might lose their primary residence tax benefits. or they are renting it out as a vacation let illegally. i would be careful about pushing too hard if you don't have a long term legal contract because they can make your life miserable.
honestly the "threaten to involve a third party" trick works wonders in spain. landlords here hate the idea of inspectors or lawyers getting involved. i had a leak in my bathroom that went ignored for weeks until i mentioned calling my insurance company's legal team. suddenly a plumber appeared in two hours. it is a shame we have to play these games just to get basic service and documents.
worked for me too with a deposit issue. just the word "abogado" makes them move. it is exhausting though. you pay premium prices as a digital nomad and still get treated like a student in a dorm.